tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15636692.post5689710191798478820..comments2024-03-10T15:13:47.148-07:00Comments on Research-China.Org: LA Times: The Root of the ProblemResearch-China.Orghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09137919637778021754noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15636692.post-86043037965975001502009-10-14T07:42:22.162-07:002009-10-14T07:42:22.162-07:00Obviously we can't ask a culture to change the...Obviously we can't ask a culture to change their way of thinking, but we can do all we can not to be a part of the problem. I suspect that without IA in the picture, the number of abandoned children would fall to near zero.<br /><br />BrianResearch-China.Orghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09137919637778021754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15636692.post-2681004269755941312009-10-13T20:57:34.745-07:002009-10-13T20:57:34.745-07:00If IA stops in Chian will those chidlren be better...If IA stops in Chian will those chidlren be better off? Wont parents still sell them to orphanages or to baby brokers or leave them with grandparents hoping for a better life? HOw will stopping IA help this cultural issue? How can we ask an entire culture to change their way of thinking, to stop wanting a better life for their children? When you have so few recsources you will sacrifice to offer a better future for your child. That is why so many people in this country put their children up for adoption.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15636692.post-4594712571975811842009-09-25T16:14:01.992-07:002009-09-25T16:14:01.992-07:00Forgive the digression, but I went to the Resist R...Forgive the digression, but I went to the Resist Racism site referenced in this article, read the commentary there and chose to add my own remarks in response to what I felt were some pretty cheap shots directed at the adoptive community, expressed by one of the participants in particular. <br /><br />Instead of posting what I actually wrote, which stressed issues of empathy and responding fairly to others' arguments, the moderator actually placed the following statement in my name: <br /><br />[Hi, I keep forgetting that my kids observe the way I treat people of their same color.]<br /><br />The point being, of course, to portray me as racist -- and that somehow the purpose of meaningful discussion on these difficult matters is served by labeling me as such. <br /><br />I realize that the moderation policies of Resist Racism are not your concern, but I would ask that, the next time you reference this site in a posting -- in effect steering people in that direction -- that you provide fair warning that this is a site that chooses not to play with participants -- at least those it considers fair game -- honestly and fairly.John Abbotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00794691442958778297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15636692.post-31281431860500442522009-09-25T03:16:29.668-07:002009-09-25T03:16:29.668-07:00I'm glad the article came out. What's anno...I'm glad the article came out. What's annoying is that the CCAA director (probably in retaliation for loss of face) has just announced that all non-Hague certified dossier must now transfer to Hague certified agencies...before December 1, 2009. Some 10,000+ applications now will probably need to spend $8000-$10000 to transfer their dossiers. Including us, who were due to be matched in January. Sigh. <br /><br />What if we started a mass movement to refuse to pay the $5000 orphanage 'donation'? Which is a primary source of all this corruption in the first place.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15636692.post-81588248251813043312009-09-25T00:42:40.241-07:002009-09-25T00:42:40.241-07:00To Anonymous 9/24/2009 5:23 PM
You seem to be all...To Anonymous 9/24/2009 5:23 PM<br /><br />You seem to be alleging that new borns can not be trafficked. No way ! Very young children CAN be trafficked as well indeed. They can equally have been stolen or sold, or even taken away from families by FP. <br /><br />I must admit I do not reckon the reason why you say so. Perhaps are you already parent of a child born in China and who has been found as a "new born"? And perhaps, as we all do, you secretely hope (without looking very far into the problem), that your child is not concerned...<br /><br />I also come back on your statement "families will not want older child anymore". I can not see the point there either : most of the American applicants ask for AYAP babies already anyway.<br /><br />The problem is not there, for sure.<br /><br />Shall I suggest you have an in depth read of Brian's different entries on the subject for a better understanding of the story?<br /><br />RegardsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15636692.post-70416390761103321042009-09-24T17:28:32.277-07:002009-09-24T17:28:32.277-07:00I don't recall anyone stating that every child...I don't recall anyone stating that every child found at an older age is stolen, so I am not sure why you are stating that. But when an orphanage suddenly produces many older kids, especially if they are healthy, one must ask questions as to why.<br /><br />BrianResearch-China.Orghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09137919637778021754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15636692.post-26984600557102927272009-09-24T17:23:10.675-07:002009-09-24T17:23:10.675-07:00Sometimes a baby is found by someone else who trie...Sometimes a baby is found by someone else who tries to keep them. After a awhile circumstances change and they abandon them again. You canot assume every child abandoned who is not a newborn is stolen from their birth family. Sometimes the family loses their job or a parent or caretaker dies or becomes too sick to care for them. Or the father abandons the mother. Divorce and remarriage. Lots of reasons for abandonment at an older age. Stop scaring people who have adopted older babies and children. Soon no one will want them at all. Everyone will demand children found as newborns and the older ones will be left behind. But I guess an orphanage in their home country is much better than an adoptive family who lives them, right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15636692.post-64189056084204312762009-09-24T05:39:36.230-07:002009-09-24T05:39:36.230-07:00I also think the root of the problem is money and ...I also think the root of the problem is money and greed...<br /><br />And there isn't, unfortunately, much we can do (unless stopping the NSN program, of course). Just look at what happened to Ina Huts, Director of Wereldkinderen (biggest agency in Holland) last August. She proposed to carry out her own undercover investigation (re:traffic) in China. But Ina Huts said she was approached by Justice Ministry officials who pressurised her to put a stop to the inquiry in the interests of relations with China. In fact, Wereldkinderen falls under Justice Ministry supervision, and the officials allegedly threatened to withdraw the agency's licence if it refused to comply. Ina Huts resigned shortly after this story.<br />Difficult, indeed...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15636692.post-75529465584574098242009-09-22T11:49:50.336-07:002009-09-22T11:49:50.336-07:00The more research and investigation that is done, ...The more research and investigation that is done, the earlier it goes. For a while it was felt that the origin of these problems lay around 2001, when Chinese adoption law changes allowed families inside China to more easily adopt. It was this increased demand that was viewed as being the catalyst.<br /><br />However, the more research is done, the more it is becoming clear that it goes further back than that. It seems possible at this point that problems began with the introduction of the IA program, or soon after.<br /><br />BrianResearch-China.Orghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09137919637778021754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15636692.post-87044296124951036492009-09-22T10:57:44.855-07:002009-09-22T10:57:44.855-07:00do you know when this practice started? Has it bee...do you know when this practice started? Has it been all along or only during the past few years?<br />also, I tried to get information about our daughter from a clinic person we keep in touch with but she pretty much shut that door though she was nice about it. It made me feel she knows something she wasn't telling me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15636692.post-64102068658635635162009-09-22T08:30:11.261-07:002009-09-22T08:30:11.261-07:00Anonymous:
Of course the desire for money is the ...Anonymous:<br /><br />Of course the desire for money is the primary motivation for these problems, exemplified by the change in actions when the IA program began in Zhenyuan. However, the reason there is so little outcry from those familiar with these programs is the belief that the children are benefited. The feelings of prejudice allows the programs to continue unchecked inside China.<br /><br />BrianResearch-China.Orghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09137919637778021754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15636692.post-77852358837515480382009-09-22T08:14:46.173-07:002009-09-22T08:14:46.173-07:00Pam, there are many people within China who are wi...Pam, there are many people within China who are willing to assist with searching. Sometimes if you can't find a local from the exact area your child was adopted from, make connections with people who either live around that location or may have connections there.<br />Also there are newspaper ad options that some people have used that give a small amount of info and a contact name and email address and ideally a Chinese phone number or QQ.<br />You can also circulate your childs basic info on Chinese forums and a blog that can be viewed from in China.<br />Make contact with the director or staff or foster parents.<br />You can also connect with media in China if you are brave!<br />The "baby come home" forum offers thousands of volunteers that work to reunite lost children.<br />Another option is to request information through your agency AND your government that is responsible for overseeing IAs. Request a full copy of your childs file and have it translated by someone you trust.<br />Some people also use fliers or pamphlets/cards to hand out.<br />NGOs working in the areas may also offer information or assistance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15636692.post-65527534797194855862009-09-22T08:04:22.963-07:002009-09-22T08:04:22.963-07:00I don't believe that ignorant comments, such a...I don't believe that ignorant comments, such as the one made by the civil affairs official named Wu Benhua, have much to do with Chinese cultural beliefs about the welfare of children. They are simply self-serving arguments used to legitimize these individuals', self-interested, criminal behaviour; preying on poor families and their children for the profit that can be made. Follow the money. The root of the problem is corruption and greed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15636692.post-66474421407747111192009-09-22T07:47:30.887-07:002009-09-22T07:47:30.887-07:00So anonymous, what are the avenues that you speak ...So anonymous, what are the avenues that you speak of that would allows us to help search for my daughter's first family? When i google search her home city, I get very little info about it. so, please if you know something share it with the rest of us. while my daughter doesn't long for her other family, i think she would love to know about them. I too hope to someday take her back to her home city.Pamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15636692.post-43636921638933835862009-09-22T05:06:45.376-07:002009-09-22T05:06:45.376-07:00Sharie, you can search without money. With the int...Sharie, you can search without money. With the internet and availability of connections you actually may get more answers by finding locals from your childs area than if you tried to do it on your own.<br />There are many routes to use while searching that don't charge a fortune.<br />Good luck!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15636692.post-17599603466933054392009-09-21T17:52:22.465-07:002009-09-21T17:52:22.465-07:00How can a child possibly be better off raised away...How can a child possibly be better off raised away from everything she knows? - Even my daughter who I adopted at 9 months longs to visit China, to speak Chinese, to know her Chinese family. She just turned 5 and it breaks my heart to see how much she misses her culture, her language, her family. <br />If I had any extra money we would be searching for her first family - I want to know who they are, I want to let them know that we remember them - that there isn't a day that goes by that she doesn't tell me she misses them. And when she gets older I want my daughter to have the opportunity to know them, if that is what she still wants. <br />I know adopted children who don't think about their first families, but I believe there are more like my daughter who desire a chance to meet the families they were meant to grow up with.Sharienoreply@blogger.com