tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15636692.post3555053079455944136..comments2024-03-10T15:13:47.148-07:00Comments on Research-China.Org: Why Birth Parent Searches are Often SimpleResearch-China.Orghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09137919637778021754noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15636692.post-31794097568840116612018-05-09T06:09:13.123-07:002018-05-09T06:09:13.123-07:00Swedish mum: You will want to contact us directly....Swedish mum: You will want to contact us directly. We still have the Hunan records, of course, but would need your child's Chinese name, etc., to see what exactly we have about her. Look forward to hearing from you.<br /><br />BrianResearch-China.Orghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09137919637778021754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15636692.post-66544327702098987612018-05-09T03:34:22.850-07:002018-05-09T03:34:22.850-07:00Hi Brian,
Our daughter is from one of the orphana...Hi Brian,<br /><br />Our daughter is from one of the orphanages in the Hunan scandal in 2005, born 2005 and we became a family in Dec 2005. We are trying to collect as many data as possible, and our daughter now also consider to do DNA testing, mainly to search for possible siblings.<br /><br />You write in August 2011 "Last year we announced to the adoptive family groups for the Hunan scandal orphanages that we had obtained the receiving logs for many of the children adopted from those orphanages".<br />Is it possible for us to have any information thus 7-8 years has passed? If so how do we proceed? The SWI is Hengnan County SWI.<br /><br />Best regards<br />Swedish mum<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15636692.post-68567051697668202472018-04-23T09:10:07.226-07:002018-04-23T09:10:07.226-07:00Kelly: Are you referring to general trafficking pa...Kelly: Are you referring to general trafficking patterns in China, or patterns involving orphanages. The patterns are different. Research-China.Orghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09137919637778021754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15636692.post-21952730113498370222018-04-23T03:33:04.540-07:002018-04-23T03:33:04.540-07:00Hi Brian,
I am interested in learning more about ...Hi Brian,<br /><br />I am interested in learning more about trafficking patterns in China. Have you done any research on this or can you point me to any resources ?<br /><br />Kelly Kng@atlanticbb.net Kellynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15636692.post-60097312531907357062017-05-02T10:01:38.264-07:002017-05-02T10:01:38.264-07:00Liang Jiang, you are absolutely right. Early adopt...Liang Jiang, you are absolutely right. Early adoptees are often handicapped by the lack of detailed finding information. A lot has changed, as you point out, but also people have moved away, died, etc., which makes locating people, even if you know their names, etc., much harder. To add another issue, in 1995 there were not the incentives at play, at least not as widely, as later, so there are fewer opportunities to discover the chain of custody. But you should at least put your DNA in 23andMe. One never knows when that will reveal information.Research-China.Orghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09137919637778021754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15636692.post-12614869134510895122017-05-02T08:05:11.914-07:002017-05-02T08:05:11.914-07:00ok but what do you do if you DON"T have any f...ok but what do you do if you DON"T have any finder information on your notary report? My only says where I was found, there is no hint as to how i got to the orphanage....I don't know where I would even find that information....I don't have a finding ad either since I was born in 1995 and adopted in 1996.....Turns out also the place I was found doesn't exist anymore :/ the building got torn down and the districts got rearranged. A lot of things about my adoption doesn't seem to add up anyways. They said I was 2 days old but when my parents adopted me at 6 months the doctor in America could have sworn I was older than that because of how fast I was developing :/ Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10966922722358722265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15636692.post-86001665901463839182017-03-09T08:50:46.298-08:002017-03-09T08:50:46.298-08:00The data you are referring to are the finding ads,...The data you are referring to are the finding ads, which began publication in late 1999. Unfortunately, the ads between 1999 and 2002 didn't include the finding locations, so they are also not overly relevant. Our reports still are valuable for giving you tips to keep in mind as you search.Research-China.Orghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09137919637778021754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15636692.post-35756545715900343882017-03-09T06:43:27.585-08:002017-03-09T06:43:27.585-08:00Brian, I see that your time line does not before 1...Brian, I see that your time line does not before 1999. My daughter was reported to have been born 1/13/99. We adopted that November from Yujiang SWI in Jiangxi. Would it be fruitful for us to inquire or is there no information for that early in 1999? ThanksSharon Gilmorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02471187611717903130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15636692.post-67631740445184655852017-03-08T04:44:58.696-08:002017-03-08T04:44:58.696-08:00Unfortunately, the orphanage is often the only way...Unfortunately, the orphanage is often the only way you will meet the foster family, so you need to have Chris arrange for that. But how you play it once you meet can be very important. Arrange to have a small note with you, with a qq or WeChat ID. Discreetly pass it to the foster mother when you meet. Ask the foster mother general questions about you child, take pictures, but don't ask anything revealing about searching, etc. Ask the director if it is possible to have her direct address, but you will probably be told no. No problem, the foster mother will almost always reach out to you and establish contact. Once that happens, you can talk on the phone, through WeChat, etc. directly. Foster parents are often great sources of info.Research-China.Orghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09137919637778021754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15636692.post-9077764979447369542017-03-08T03:24:08.750-08:002017-03-08T03:24:08.750-08:00From Evie's mum Jan
Hi Brian,
I have recently ...From Evie's mum Jan<br />Hi Brian,<br />I have recently joined Chinese-Seeking which is Chris Tao Ping's new website. He was the facilitator for Evie's adoption in February 2006 and I have recently asked him to accompany us on a fact finding trip to Xiaochang in October. He told me he would be contacting the orphanage to try to arrange a meeting with the foster family. Since reading your excellent blog, I have asked him not to contact the orphanage as this could risk of staff coaching key contacts. I have asked Chris for suggestions as to an alternative approach and await his reply. I think I will post this on Chinese-Seeking and see you are now a member. You also mentioned the Birth Parent Search Report...how do I go about obtaining this? Many thanks in advance. <br />8/3/17Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14711624233593602498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15636692.post-68255346337677909192016-10-25T13:02:42.934-07:002016-10-25T13:02:42.934-07:00Hi Maria:
Your situation is fairly common for ado...Hi Maria:<br /><br />Your situation is fairly common for adoptees that are searching now. We have no data before 1999, so it is hard to know if you were found at a common location or not. It is also hard to know if orphanages were being dishonest about things in 1995, since our earliest data point is 1996-1997. So, there is no easy way for you to determine if your information is reliable or not. Are you in contact with anyone in the orphanage? Sometimes nannies, foster mothers, etc. have info that could help.Research-China.Orghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09137919637778021754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15636692.post-44317919285631909432016-10-25T07:51:37.446-07:002016-10-25T07:51:37.446-07:00Hi Brian
I am adopted from the exact same orphanag...Hi Brian<br />I am adopted from the exact same orphanage as you mention in this article (Qichun, Hubei orphanage) and now I fear that my birth date is a lie (12th of November, 1995). I have been told that I was found outside of a police station, but Im afraid that that is a cover story... These are the only facts I know about my life before adoption, but now I don't know if I should believe it or not.. Do you have any suggestion/advice for me if I wanna find out the truth - and the chances to find my birth parents?<br /><br />Regards,<br />from Maria (Danish/Chinese girl)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15636692.post-71615552216849803552016-04-29T10:56:23.662-07:002016-04-29T10:56:23.662-07:00It is doubtful that the adoption agency will conta...It is doubtful that the adoption agency will contact the orphanage, since there are rules from the CCAA meant to discourage such contact, so I think you are safe. But if you are in China, don't let the orphanage know you are searching. Just tell them you are trying to understand your history, etc. Good luck in your search. Please don't hesitate to write us if you have any questions. <br /><br />Research-China.Orghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09137919637778021754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15636692.post-78932594718229079012016-04-29T09:55:55.218-07:002016-04-29T09:55:55.218-07:00Hello,
I'm on the search for my birth parent...Hello, <br /><br />I'm on the search for my birth parents now and was wondering I have contacted the adoption agency my parents used. Now I'm nervous they will contact the orphanage and let them know I'm searching and skew everything!!! Please tell me I didn't make a mistake and I still have a chance! Because you stated in the article that letting the orphanage know is the LAST thing you should do. But I contacted the agency on the advise from a friend who is also searching (but she is korean adoptee and I"m chinese adoptee). I feel like I should have never taken her advice now!!! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15636692.post-21064075892284199892012-05-02T09:48:04.592-07:002012-05-02T09:48:04.592-07:00Today is our daughter's 12th birthday and this...Today is our daughter's 12th birthday and this interesting article caught my attention. We did a heritage tour several years ago and our guides throughout China said she was a minority girl. We agree because altho she has Chinese features she does not look "Chinese". I know that is a generalization and I use it here for brevity only. Adopted from Guangxi, perhaps Zhuang but my sense and our guides sense was no. When we visited her orphanage, the director said the same, minority girl and that there was a minority village (Yao) in the area. Her features especially hair seem consistent with the Yao people. Now for a gut check,not a definitive Y/N; after reading about the deceptions, coverups, people migrating...does the story about a minority village fit a pattern of deception you have seen previously? Perhaps experience says the Yao are less likely to give up their children or that most villages are blended monorities these days. It would seem that one could find such a village easily if in fact it stood out as a minority village and finding the birth family less daunting assuming the process was approached correctly. I do agree with the article that things change quickly in China as we saw during our trip 5 years after our previous trip. Any other comments to this "story" would be welcomed too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15636692.post-57027696139980425432012-04-15T04:30:10.804-07:002012-04-15T04:30:10.804-07:00Of course you should make contact. Calling is the...Of course you should make contact. Calling is the easiest. There is no risk that the birth family will get in trouble, as it is obvious that if anything the chances are the orphanage should get in trouble. We can help with phone calls, but you should at least make contact to maintain that connection.<br /><br />BrianResearch-China.Orghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09137919637778021754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15636692.post-91009886384008499122012-04-15T00:17:02.720-07:002012-04-15T00:17:02.720-07:00We went back to "our orphanage" in Hubei...We went back to "our orphanage" in Hubei province some years ago. My daughters birhfamily came to the orphanage. It created turbulence and it was obvious that neither her name nor birthdate were correct. Something I had taken for granted all the time, that they were not i.e.<br />I will not go into detail because I assume that this has created problems for the orphanage or the family. The family of my daughter appeared to be a quite affluent one.<br />The family wanted us to come with them to their house to see if my daughter recognized her former home. She never stayed in the orphanage, her own family was turned into a "fosterfamily" I assume and that is where she grew up.<br />Since I have written one letter to the family father but have gotten no respons. What to do now? I have the family adress and phne numbers.<br />Could I call them? We do have a mandarin teachers who could help with that or would that be putting the family at risk?<br />To the father of five who wrote, in short, that the need to deal with problems caused by being adopted/given away come in the first place: it´s all mixed together, answers help dealing with your history and how you look at yourself. But of course with five children daily life doesn´t leave much space for that, then you can only be open and let them know what you know and what you dont know.<br /><br />Swedish mother of chinese/swedish girlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15636692.post-24652626910473697902012-04-10T14:28:16.166-07:002012-04-10T14:28:16.166-07:00The easiest way to have us put together all of the...The easiest way to have us put together all of the important information on your kids is to order our Birth Parent Search report. While the report is based on overall information about the orphanage, one really need to look at how a specific child's finding took place, where, how old, etc., to offer any insight into how a search would be conducted. You will find the report very interesting.Research-China.Orghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09137919637778021754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15636692.post-25820499612966050682012-04-10T12:37:31.053-07:002012-04-10T12:37:31.053-07:00Can you tell me what you know about Zhongshan city...Can you tell me what you know about Zhongshan city CWI? We are in the process of adopting 2 girls from there. They were both supposedly found in hospital waiting rooms. Different hospitals, same city. One was 4mo.s old at finding, and deaf. One was 2weeks old and was blue around mouth and fingers from heart issues. Any insight on this? Or the best way to go about looking for the parents?Judy Deatonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15479673628825588831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15636692.post-48948961260921110282012-01-20T16:32:35.463-08:002012-01-20T16:32:35.463-08:00Dear Anonymous:
A lot depends on which orphanage ...Dear Anonymous:<br /><br />A lot depends on which orphanage you came form, when you were adopted, etc. If you would like you can contact me privately and we can discuss options. <br /><br />Thanks for visiting my blog!<br /><br />BrianResearch-China.Orghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09137919637778021754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15636692.post-35623174643764117062012-01-20T16:10:04.327-08:002012-01-20T16:10:04.327-08:00I would really like to find my birth parents and m...I would really like to find my birth parents and my roots but would love to know how a minor would go about doing this because I have rarely felt where I am is right because I have no birth past. epically as I am talking child development where you talk a lot about births and the teachers ask about how you were born brings me down please help.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15636692.post-44173164234875866822011-12-26T14:58:56.528-08:002011-12-26T14:58:56.528-08:00I didn't inquire about my daughter who came fr...I didn't inquire about my daughter who came from an SWI involved in the Hunan scandal since you indicated you'd be in contact with those of us who bought your services in the past. So I'm still waiting to hear more. Also, sometimes money is a barrier to learning more, not fear. It seems we're all nickeled and dimed to death for tidbits of information which isn't always helpful. So that can be a reason many parents don't come forward.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15636692.post-34205497401917254292011-10-20T17:18:30.388-07:002011-10-20T17:18:30.388-07:00Love this article. If anyone knows an organization...Love this article. If anyone knows an organization that can help do the leg work for finding birth parents, let me know. I will totally screw this up and I would much prefer to pay someone to help investigate. It's not that I mind doing the leg work, I don't. I just really can't see how I am qualified to find the right ppl and ask the right questions.<br /><br />FIrst things first, how the heck do you get the police report?! I highly doubt that our DD's orphanage is going to provide it. <br /><br />BTW - Brian, I did order the birth parent search analysis!<br /><br />Christy<br />www.lilliefamily.blogspot.comLillie Familyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14963676070021383896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15636692.post-3049517894264302752011-09-21T18:51:37.222-07:002011-09-21T18:51:37.222-07:00Brian,
After reading this great article, I'm ...Brian,<br /><br />After reading this great article, I'm even more convinced that for many searching families there can come a time when the media is the only way left to go. As you stated in the article..."she lied to the birth family when she promised them that their daughter would be adopted by a local Chinese family and not sent to the orphanage...Thus, even though she knew the birth family, she would not allow us to contact them since they would then know that she had deceived them..."<br /><br />Once an adoptive family, after years of futile searching, learns that a "middle person" is involved who will not reveal the birth family's identity, the search hits a brick wall. At this point it seems that without the help of the media to get the word out to as many people as possible, even to the birth family themselves, nothing will happen. Waiting for a "change of heart" on the part of the "middle person" to suddenly reveal all is just not going to happen...<br /><br />Susan Morgan<br />mosusan2004@yahoo.comSusan Morgannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15636692.post-85325185113174504712011-09-18T13:33:28.529-07:002011-09-18T13:33:28.529-07:00Amelia:
Generally, the birth familie shave been h...Amelia:<br /><br />Generally, the birth familie shave been happy to be located, altought some are surprised (and a few upset) to learn that their child was sent overseas.<br /><br />All of the birth families that we have located relinquished their child to a "finder", so none of the children were found as described in their finding ad. But we conduct our searches in orphanages that have incentive programs, which skews the sample. <br /><br />BrianResearch-China.Orghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09137919637778021754noreply@blogger.com